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Will Lyra n Will meet again

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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Reiyn » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:11 am

They HAD one small window. The one from the land of the dead. They couldn't afford 2 windows. They were supposed to make sure they created as much Dust as they could to compensate for the dead window.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby ash_nim_4ever » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:09 am

I believe they will meet again, if not in life they will when they die
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby sab39 » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:01 am

Lyra was able to dream about what was really happening to Roger in the land of the Dead when she was in the enchanted sleep. Perhaps something along those lines will allow them to at least know a little bit about what's happening in each other's lives.

I do believe that they will both meet and fall in love with someone else and spend their lives with that person. I don't see either of them as the kind of person that would turn into Farder Corram. Perhaps that's who "Tom" is at the end of Once Upon A Time In The North.

But I'm sure they'll also meet in the Land of the Dead after living full and happy lives. Whichever one arrives first, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, would wait there for the other.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Trillian » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:13 pm

I don't think they'll meet again in this life, but I wouldn't be surprised if they met in the Underworld. However, could bring up the Dido issue of running into a lover while with a husband (look up The Aeneid, books 4 & 6 if you don't know what I'm talking about). We don't know if Lyra or Will would marry or not. I think they would, simply because I can't see either of them remaining single. I could see Pullman writing it like Lee and Hester...
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby jack o'neill » Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:24 pm

this story,with lyra and will,shit-i'm thirteen years old,and i almost cried!! I hope thet phillip create,that iorek or serrafine or somebbody else create a thing that can connect world of lyra and will,that they are back together,the window in other world may not leaving dust from world,isn't that shoud be fantastic?
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby HDMforever » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:47 pm

I don't think they'll ever marry other people. Maybe I'm just naive, but I just don't think it could happen. Remember the quote from The Amber Spyglass where Lyra was thinking how Will would never be unfaithful even if the one he loved was in a different world, like his parents? I think she'd be the same way; they might date, who knows, but I don't think they'll ever marry someone else.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Trillian » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:03 am

Hmm... the Princess Bride approach, then?

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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby jack o'neill » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:33 am

i almost criend and i'm 13 years old,really!! sh*t
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby chaza4991 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:04 pm

maybe in one of the small books like lyras oxford they will, after all it did say that someone they knew well knew how to!
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Tommy24 » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:23 pm

I think they will find each other when they die. That was part of the reason to leave the window in the land of the (AKA so people can get out ETC...)
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Alihandreu » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:29 am

I'm 100% positive that they will get to see each other again before they die. I don't know why, but I get a feeling that LO wouldn't have been written unless they were meant to be together. I think they'll end up creating the republic of heaven. I really hope they do because I was not happy at the end of HDM.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Mils » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:36 am

Give it time. After a while you'll accept the fact that its how things are meant to be. There's always the bit of hope somewhere, but still, PP said that it was the end of their story.
Check out some of the other threads on this theme. (in BOD forum, maybe?). It helps.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Jessica99 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:07 pm

I suppose they could meet again, but all the windows (I was going to put doors, but windows seems more apt) seem to be closed firmly, on them getting back together, by Mr Pullman. There doesn't seem to be any logical way for them to be reunited, unless they do a lot of damage to the worlds. It is tragic, but it is truly the only way that it could end. They never do meet again, not in life, or else the Republic of Heaven couldn't really be built. After all, putting one's selfish desires first (no matter how personal and noble) will not help the Republic get built.
Besides, it's a good lesson ; life doesn't always have a conventionally happy ending. Lyra and Will cannot live 'happy ever after' because that's sometimes how things end up.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Kaisa Mulefa » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:27 am

Will will (haha) probably learn some of the things his dad knew as a shaman. Therefore, he may be able to travel to lyra's world... In my mind they will meet again.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Aurora_Lumi » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:55 pm

Personally, I think they do! I know I’m not the only one that realized what Xaphania (the female angel) said to them. She said “There is another way to go through worlds, but it is a way that takes practice and know how to use the imagination… don’t get it confused with pretending something… but actually grabbing the world you want to enter” like knowing where! What place and time maybe? I know I didn’t quote her right (I don’t have the book in front of me now) but she made it sound like if Lyra was able to grab that type of mind frame she would be able to enter into Will world. Well… if you think about it they already picked a place! The garden! Where they promised to meet every year so they can feel close to each other even though it’s in another world. (ok I’m crying again!) lol. Maybe it could happen like that! Hopefully because their love is so profound and real that this will help them imagine opening a “window” and entering one of their worlds.  Yes I do have a big imagination! Lol But you never know! The angel did say there was another way!
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Knight » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:32 pm

Quick answer: No.
Long answer: Depends on Pullman.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Rod » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:00 am

Why whould Pullman wright that humans can travel to another worlds whitout the knife if he dident want to geet reunited? Sorry for my spelling, im tierd
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby bekkums » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:54 pm

I don't think they will. More so I hope they wont. It has a lot more meaning if they don't.
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Pan is awesome 123 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:39 pm

I know it seems like they could have left a window but,as someone said in another post opening a window is like killing someone. Do you really think either of them could live with that?
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby Panizkwl » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:12 am

Lol I agree I'm just like the stupid angel said that if u teach and learn and stuff that will create more dust so surely with the thousands of worlds there's enough dust for just one more tiny window
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Re: Will Lyra n Will meet again

Postby coolshot » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:28 am

John Parry had mentioned to Will they need to build the Kingdom of Heaven. Towards the end of the Amber Spyglass, Lyra had also reiterated they will build the Kingdom of Heaven. I believe the story hinted on this place and it is this place where they will meet again, cherish each others love and grow old together.
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