question??

[kitty1535]

ok i have read the first two books in HDM and at the begining of the amber spyglass and i was sure that in the subtle knife Will's dad had a Dæmon when he went into Lyra's world, saying something like "i never knew there was this part of me" or something similar, but in amber spyglass will has to have the angel be his Dæmon so he isnt noticed in Lyra's world. so im confused, did i imagine that will's dad had a Dæmon or is there a reason why will doesnt??
please sort my confusion!!
also this is my first post here !!! hello!!

[Phit]

It's been a bit of a mishap on PP's part and it threw me off for some time too, but I think the new maps LA just posted images of clear it up-

http://hisdarkmaterials.org/article-610--0-0.html

It appears John Parry described it in short due to limited time (understandable) and in actuality a shaman of Lyra's world helped bring Sayan Kotor into visibility.

If you check point #2 on the first map that's what I mean. Be a bit careful though around here since you haven't read all the books! And welcome here of course!

[Spectorial_Warder]

but for him to get a Dæmon he would have to have ethier gone through the world of the dead or passed the test that the whichs had to pass with their dæmons

[fire_imp]

No, remember Mary Malone?

[irrevilent]

Oh my god, I'm null and void! hicornycob bet me to it!

It would make sense that, as Will became a shaman when he was in the Land of the Dead (as did Lyra) due to his dæmon being 'ripped out of him' and that is what occurs with witches, John Parry also became a shaman when he took the same test. As for Mary, her dæmon is only viewable through large amounts of concentration.

[HanameHime]

*shrugs* I just figured he did the same thing the witches did. He obviously knew them, as one wanted to do him.

[edd]

The witches had to cross a place in the north of their world (If I remeber correctly) so, wasn't it possible that he crossed this area upon arrival in Lyras world?

[iorekbrynisson]

how come that no one in wills world can see his or mary's Dæmon? but he could see pantalaimon straight away?

[edd]

Because the Dæmon in our (will's) world are subtly different to theirs. In our evolution our Dæmon evolved invisible, whereas in Lyra's world, they involved visible.

[kitty1535]

ok seeing as i just finished reading amber spyglass it makes more sence and now that i read all the replys(i didnt look becasue they was stuff said that would have given the story away!!)

[Bryce]

yeah