Prize-winning kids writer Philip Pullman says he doesn't think Lord of the Rings is such a good read.
He also said that children at primary school need to hear more stories being read to them.
Philip said: "I've never been a fan of Lord of the Rings. It's a good yarn, but that's it."
Philip wrote the Dark Materials trilogy and is writing The Book of Dust now which is also about Lyra from the previous books.
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